tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post7585765058666570569..comments2024-03-19T02:43:07.969-04:00Comments on "Time's Up!": Protective Mothers Movement Needs UnityTime's Uphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09908111385466002389noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-84313366962376755652013-11-21T14:42:07.054-05:002013-11-21T14:42:07.054-05:00(Later. Or, see my blog -- the 4,096 character li...(Later. Or, see my blog -- the 4,096 character limit is a bear...)Lets Get Honesthttp://familycourtmatters.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-71575781371234548292013-11-21T13:56:39.299-05:002013-11-21T13:56:39.299-05:00Thanks to many people who consistently blog (but d...Thanks to many people who consistently blog (but due to their own situations, and court cases, are unable to track, or attend, all the conferences from state to state being held about us and our kind (fit mothers attempting to retain or regain custody of their children once it hits conciliation courts) -- these issues ARE seeing the light of day. While I realize, as you say above, different groups have different focuses -- but NO group should be actively censoring, re-framing, or attempting to silence the discussion (let alone the mention) of significant topics which affect all of us. <br />- - - - -<br />PMA, I just learned recently was announced in 2009 (lundybancroft.blogspot.com 6/19/2009) post. I also began my blog in 2009 to start speaking about some of these "unmentionables" which should've been shown to me, could've, but weren't -- before I completely lost contact with two children I'd removed from a dangerous and violent home years earlier. MOST of these topics have to do with welfare reform (and groups pushing certain philosophies and practices through it, one of which was TANF purpose IV, promotion of two-parent families. "Access Visitation" grants were dedicated federally at $10 million a year since 1996 to help set up extra-court programs to better facilitate "noncustodialparent contact" which were deemed to be primarily fathers. I know plenty of mothers (and have been one) where we were not given the same "access" once our kids were taken.<br /><br />$10 million a year since 1996 is a LOT to mention, but a $4 BILLION a year federal program (Child Support Enforcement) which has been essentially evolving and re-tooled to promote fatherhood involvement (and ALL the many corporations that help facilitate this) is a whole lot to not mention, either -- when talking about the problems mothers have retaining custody.<br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - <br />Regarding on-line fighting on facebook et al. (around whichever venue, Lawless America, I've heard was one), I am not so interested in personalities as in systems, and again, in honesty and reporting.<br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br />So, re this comment, from above:<br /><br />"Recently I have noticed ever more frequent anger and personal attacks by those doing good work to help protective moms and against others doing good work to help protective moms. I can understand how this happens, but if we are going to change the system, it has to stop."<br /><br />The term "doing good work to help protective moms" is both subjective, and pretty darn vague, in my opinion. <br /><br />See next commentLets Get Honesthttp://familycourtmatters.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-45369606903069106412010-10-19T22:38:14.993-04:002010-10-19T22:38:14.993-04:00From the Editor:
It's always good to see dial...From the Editor:<br /><br />It's always good to see dialog, change never comes about without it. This is an issue that draws a lot of conflicting opinions and I would just like to state that each comment is that person's opinion and not necessarily the opinion of this blog.<br /><br />@LetsGetHonest....thanks for the marketing tips, however, if you click on each picture you will find that they have active links to each person's site, if they have one. Each picture is in alphabetical order and the person who is the "author of the day" is on top. Just trying to be fair.<br /><br />(ps...they are not my family, but I would claim any one of them!)<br /><br />EditorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-68895528795138165652010-10-19T20:14:44.491-04:002010-10-19T20:14:44.491-04:00As an individual who fights for women's rights...As an individual who fights for women's rights and children's rights, I will never associate with any group that publishes a hate list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-41316720046681187902010-10-18T22:37:52.560-04:002010-10-18T22:37:52.560-04:00I too have seen this "list" and am very ...I too have seen this "list" and am very unhappy that my name is included. I am an abused mother, thankfully coming out of it to the other side. I would like to know if I am on this list because of my inability to be at the group creator's beck and call 24/7? I am sorry that my abuser decided to call CPS on me and I had to focus on my child. She always comes first before anything else. Or was it school? I need to be able to get into a better paying job so I can remove the last little bit of control my abuser has on me which is financial.<br /><br />I am a part of a great group now who understands this. They know there are times I can work like a dog and get tons of stuff done and then other times I will vanish and be MIA for many weeks. But we all play our own parts in this group and we get many things done. I am saddened that with all the hours I took out of my life and my child's life for a cause I am very passionate about, that this is how it would end up. With my name on a doodoo list. That really speaks volumes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-53959479949494143142010-10-18T21:42:47.961-04:002010-10-18T21:42:47.961-04:00Barry, thank you for such an eloquently pinpoint a...Barry, thank you for such an eloquently pinpoint article...we should all work together for the larger goal, and the broken systems repaired for the sake of the children, victims, and protective mothers. You kind sir,have put this subject into clear perspective for many.Michele Reneehttp://www.survivorsharingstrength.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-47267353619997031142010-10-18T21:40:21.952-04:002010-10-18T21:40:21.952-04:00Not to put a sour taste in anyone's direction,...Not to put a sour taste in anyone's direction, I want to lift up those that I know have been unified in this movement: Barr Goldstein, Mo Hannah, Connie Valentine, Karen Anderson, Eileen King to name a few...Martin Luther King Jr. marched WITH his fellow peaceful protesters. There are also many women directly praying for our cause on a daily basis, and up to 30,000 indirectly praying. We have unity and it is growing. Thanks Nancy Carroll for your continued dedication and loyalty to the cause.Jay Sutternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-65378161909956069352010-10-15T22:56:42.971-04:002010-10-15T22:56:42.971-04:00Barry,
Thank you for a very well written article...Barry, <br /><br />Thank you for a very well written article laying out all the reasons to sacrifice for the sake of the children, you have done your best and we thank you. <br /><br />As you said, some are willing to risk their careers or at least their earning capacity to help them. And some will continue to point fingers and incite counter groups RATHER THAN FORM cooperative groups which may defeat the purpose- how sad.<br /><br />Let's hope for unity -- a unified front will accomplish a national changeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-90929233618410174282010-10-15T14:05:53.338-04:002010-10-15T14:05:53.338-04:00Thank you Barry for again such insight and thought...Thank you Barry for again such insight and thoughtfulness. We protective mothers are more determined every day to make sure that someday we will have justice and liberty for ALL!Lorraine Tiptonhttp://www.americanmotherspoliticalparty.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-8302834070153531512010-10-15T11:49:41.644-04:002010-10-15T11:49:41.644-04:00There is a mistrust of all men, when the abuse is ...There is a mistrust of all men, when the abuse is fresh. I know when I first saw men in the movement I wanted to know who let them in. I think it is important for the women in the movement to explain to the new ones that these men have not only been thoroughly screened, but that they have proven their loyalty to the cause. I think the women in the cause are best suited to reach out to the new ones and pave the way for the men. Since the beginning of the feminist movement, we have had the support of certain men and that is important to us. Some new protective moms have not really been exposed to the feminist movement before and don't know that. Tyler CollinsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-72814620553764643032010-10-15T06:10:29.981-04:002010-10-15T06:10:29.981-04:00Hi Barry, you have put it so nicely, and that we a...Hi Barry, you have put it so nicely, and that we all should cooperate with each and stay united, also in Australia. I am not too sure, perhaps these are teething problems for some groups as they start off, and depreciate other people's work without realising that they may be giving away their hopes for a better future for all. Well put and I also urge Aussie mums to set aside their difference, and work together. We would like to join the international movement when it is formed.<br />from www.safety4parentsandkids.org.au<br />here in Australia. Thank you for your time dedication and all your work..Safety 4 kidshttp://www.safety4parentsandkids.org.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-2048365496014302272010-10-15T00:02:38.231-04:002010-10-15T00:02:38.231-04:00Barry, Excellent article regarding unity. Infight...Barry, Excellent article regarding unity. Infighting and personal attacks only serve to make this movement, which needs all the advocates it can get, disjointed. It is very troublesome. Of course, there is always dissension in social movements--like the women's right's movement and the civil right's movement--as they struggle with a variety of approaches and leadership styles. The thing with those movements, however, is that the numbers were higher and the problem more in public view.<br /><br /> With the protective mother's movement, we really have to guard with caution how we treat our fellow advocates. There are too few of us still and the work too essential. We can't afford to loose sight of the prize. Getting any movement in a system this entrenched and this dysfunctional requires our cooperation, even when sometimes it's not as easy as we'd desire.<br /><br />Thanks for making this important call for unity, Barry!J. Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18260135988811298689noreply@blogger.com