tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post5265617661526884..comments2024-03-19T02:43:07.969-04:00Comments on "Time's Up!": Legal VictimizationTime's Uphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09908111385466002389noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-10683375261953526102009-12-11T21:18:59.328-05:002009-12-11T21:18:59.328-05:00Gaetane:
No one can argue the morality issue here...Gaetane:<br /><br />No one can argue the morality issue here. Who says your morals are more virtuous than mine? You? Are you the morals police? Most people would believe this is immoral, I agree. <br /><br />You ask this: "Is a 17-year-old able to consent to a sexual “relationship” with a nearly forty-year-old man?"<br /><br />Hhmm, well yes, in some states they can. What does it matter his age? Your issue is either age of consent or the fact that this was an older man. Cause why else would you have pointed out his age? Which is it? Would you care if the guy was 18? If she was 18, would it matter that he was her teacher? No, because it is NOT illegal to cross that line if consent is legally stated.<br />Or that little annoying factt that she is now considered an adult. <br /><br />How is tha when they are 17 they are not able to make these decisions, BUT ONE YEAR LATER, they can? Have they suddenly "reached full maturity", as you state a 17 year old has not? Really? One year later? <br /><br />Because it is not always illegal to have bad judgement. It is not always illegal to take advantage of others. Therapists sleep with their clients. Not illegal...morally wrong to most people. An abuse of power. But not illegal...you will take the stance that these are children!!!....hence returning yet again to your actual problem: AGE OF CONSENT, because then the actions WOULD be illegal. <br /><br />Is it your belief that ALL states should follow your ideals and change their age of consent? <br /><br />FYI: I agree with your beliefs. However, you lacked a clear platorm by simply NOT saying that specifically the age of consent laws need to have some sort of overhaul. You end your article with "take a closer look" at the laws...yea, AND??? Seriously, and what???<br /><br />You have so much opinion on this and yet you dont even offer what you think needs to be done about these current laws or what your solution is.Vaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07097674956227126359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-207679605848144822009-12-11T15:08:11.360-05:002009-12-11T15:08:11.360-05:00Wow! What an array of responses to my post...
6p...Wow! What an array of responses to my post...<br /><br />6p00d8341ec3da53ef---It appears that we are discussing two different things. You, at first, agree that this educator crossed the lines. By the way...there are established educator rules of conduct for specific reasons. Should the rules now say "No sex with your student unless they are at least 16…and a “hottie”??????" And NO I do not think that girls are more immature or idiotic than boys. I use the word "adolescent" to refer to BOTH males and females. Also...you suggest that it is plausible that the female student in the case that I highlighted could have been a "hottie" trying to seduce this man like a femme fatale to get at his "inheritance". If this were the case, I would STILL place the onus of responsibility on Christopher King (HER TEACHER) to tell her that such interactions between them would be inappropriate…while simultaneously giving her a hall pass to the Counselor's Office.<br /><br />Vag-Unfortunatley this argument is not nugatory as you say. Rather, it is a wake up call to many to make sure that the laws in place adequately protect our children's welfare. Just because it’s a law does not make it right.<br /><br />GaetaneGaétane Bordershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13691434191246919423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-19152054074398322152009-12-11T12:42:20.613-05:002009-12-11T12:42:20.613-05:00Nevermind. The article clearly states that "i...Nevermind. The article clearly states that "in June when the Georgia Supreme Court ruled that, when a student is a willing participant and is 16 or older, the student's consent can be a defense for teachers facing a sexual assault charge". <br /><br />This argument is nugatory. No illegal activity.Vaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07097674956227126359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-84342183489134827402009-12-11T12:36:28.053-05:002009-12-11T12:36:28.053-05:00Its quite simple: is the age of consent in Georgia...Its quite simple: is the age of consent in Georgia 17 or not?<br /><br />Otherwise any act was consensual by law, albeit unethical because of the power up/power down relationship defined by their teacher/student status.Vaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07097674956227126359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-75334965576174195102009-12-11T09:57:20.126-05:002009-12-11T09:57:20.126-05:00to the above poster, you basically negated your ow...to the above poster, you basically negated your own argument in the first line. the guy was a teacher, she was a student, yes, she is therefor "prey". <br />she is not yet 18. still prey. not 'legal'where i come from. <br />it's the very position he was in (far above hers, in age and stature) that allowed him to take advantage, any relationship borne of that is wrong.shana goetschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16237772115819065394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-33149797308832042512009-12-11T02:15:57.581-05:002009-12-11T02:15:57.581-05:00Once again I disagree with PART of this -- not the...Once again I disagree with PART of this -- not the part where he violated the supposed no-no's of teacher/student relations we have in USA. But she is a victim?? She is prey?<br /> The woman who loves him doesnt feel preyed upon -- does he feel like prey? Was he maybe seduced by a femme fatale hottie hell bent on his inheritance? WE DONT KNOW.<br />"It's gross, it's awful, but it ain't illegal…This was a consensual relationship." <br />What is awful? What is gross? Love? Ohhhh...Is it the age difference that bothers you? As in Harold and Maude? Or is the assumption that simply because he is male that his motives (but never hers)were impure? She is of legal age, and so is he. My former g/f was married to a man older than her own father -- yes she outlived him, but they were married happily for 25 years.<br />A friend of mine married a woman more than thirty years his senior. People thought he must be crazy to marry a woman who looked like his grandmother or at least his elderly mom --it was true love for real.<br /><br />Some men only fall for younger women, and some younger women only are interested in older men.<br />Because she is seventeen and female, does that mean she is an idiot, or immature or what?<br />Why do we assume that women are incapable of thinking, and some judge should think for her?<br />If it was a 17 year old stud from the football team and an older female, I don't think there would be this hand wringing. But because it's a woman, she can't possibly think for herself, is that it?<br /><br />Yes a woman is "immature" and child like at seventeen, but boys are worldly and mature at seventeen? Uh....I always thought it was the other way around...girls have become women while the boys are contemplating their secondary sexual characteristics.<br /><br />Yep -- women sure are stupid and gullible...not the women I know now or the ones i recall from high school...as Cathleen Turner said to her male prey in Body Heat "You're kind of stupid, I like that in a man"<br /><br />Yes, delilah, I am such a trouble maker!!!!<br />But i'm so darn nice and pleasant!<br />Keep up the good work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-71837143791745011932009-12-10T14:08:23.902-05:002009-12-10T14:08:23.902-05:00We see many perverted judges who are in a position...We see many perverted judges who are in a position to make positive change and yet just keep making decisions like this. It's appalling. It's like any position of power, there is corruption run rampant!Delilahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09129593439262648032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-7133375182512166902009-12-10T11:50:05.726-05:002009-12-10T11:50:05.726-05:00I didn't know they let horses's a**'s ...I didn't know they let horses's a**'s be judges.Donald Rosshttp://findjesseross.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6032288097291902285.post-31934312820381101862009-12-10T08:57:50.428-05:002009-12-10T08:57:50.428-05:00Here's an interesting article on coaches who p...Here's an interesting article on coaches who prey:<br /><br /><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/local/coaches/news/parents.html" rel="nofollow">Click Here to Read Story</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com